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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Deck moulding]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you lucked out too, Adrian!</p><p>I am using the 3M #4000 UV (I believe that&#039;s the #)&nbsp; it&#039;s removeable, but UV resistant, about twice the cost of what the other brands are, but so far seems ok, and I did it last summer....</p><p>I used a dental pick to remove the old stuff, then a bit of acetone to clean up nice - there&#039;s not core there, solid fibreglass, thank heavens,&nbsp; so it goes quite quickly, as you do not have &quot;Stefan D deck horror&quot; lurking under that innocent white deck! ;D</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Deck moulding]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly Shannon, in terms of &quot;lucking out&quot;...</p><p>#322 seems to have been bought by a couple in 1984, sailed for the 1985 season, and then not sailed again till about 2000, when it was bought by its second owner, who sailed it for a couple years before selling it to us.</p><p>Shannon, what are you using to caulk your chainplates?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Camiel;</p><p>Where you say the &quot;stays are fitted to the deck&quot;, I think you mean the &quot;chainplates&quot;.&nbsp; Yes, there is a little space around them that you have to put new putty (caulking) in to fill the little space - every year I do mine.&nbsp; &nbsp;I clean out all old caulking and put in new stuff.&nbsp; I have no leaks there at all when I discovered that it needed new caulking.</p><p>Too bad all that water and grease gets on your beer! (I think you are replacing &quot;cutless bearing&quot; - where propellor shaft enters the boat?!)&nbsp; ;-)</p><p>Stefan D is right, who knows what went in to certain areas.&nbsp; Some of us likely lucked out with the first owners who commissioned the boat - if they hung around the builder and watched things, by doing so, they unwittingly ensured at least some of it got done &quot;right&quot;! ;-)&nbsp; <br />And yes, the key is a proper re-bedding:&nbsp; if it leaks: take it right out/off and dry out the deck area and then rebed. </p><p>And Peter, your boat is looking pretty darn good too!&nbsp; We can all see the work all of you guys have done on each of your boats, and Peter, you&#039;ve done alot to yours!&nbsp; So, you took off the rub rail, and those are the &quot;rivets&quot; holding the hull to the deck, and you are going to glass it all up?!&nbsp; Good idea...once things are apart, may as well do as much as we can, hey?!</p><p>So Stefan, where are you now in your deck repair?!&nbsp; Updated pictures anywhere?!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Shannon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Deck moulding]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Some of the JJT boats were balsa cored, which in my opinion is better suited to injection.&nbsp; Seems that Taylor used whatever they had when building these things.&nbsp; Not one is exactly the same.&nbsp; I got a plywood deck, and it was wet.&nbsp; Not so lucky.&nbsp; You probably got lucky and the previous owner actually rebedded the fittings (thru deck, etc) now and again.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey Peter,</p><p>But you see, water keeps pulling on you!</p><p>Camiel</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yep got exported to the desert.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Peter SC)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Peter,</p><p>You&#039;re Dutch too?</p><p>Greetings, Camiel</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just because a boat hasnt been in the water doesn&#039;t make it dry.&nbsp; Plywood doesn&#039;t dry out all that well.&nbsp; Balsa is better.&nbsp; But still has an amazing affinity to moisture.&nbsp; You can see the mess I removed from my boat, and it was on the hard for 7 years before I started.......</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha Camiel, I was lucky to get mine on a trailer, had not been in the water since 1997, so it was dry.<br />Having the same problems as everybody else with through deck mountings. Has anyone found a good solution for the chainplates? mine have a 1/4 inch gap that is caulked, go figure if it leaks.We had the first rain in over 100 days yesterday Shannon, I can see them leaks now lol. I am going to glass the hull/deck joint next, one less worry.<br />Je hebt gelijk Camiel werk werk werk,<br />groeten,<br />Peter</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Everyone,</p><p>Thanks for joining me on this discussion. It is of great help to me. On the other hand it worries me. Should I really bother? If I would like to fix the problem in a decent way, it&#039;s a hell of a job. Maybe not this year then. The problems Shannon is talking about sound familiair; we have the same problem with wiring from the mast. We also had water coming through from the place where we have two winches on top of the cabin, but I was able to fix that problem. </p><p>Also, when we are into some rough sailing (&gt; 6 bft), water is coming in through alongside the bolts where the stayes are fitted to the deck. Once it&#039;s springtime, I will attack these points one by one.</p><p>This winter, we are also working on the shaft of the engine; we are replacing the bearings and also place a (I don&#039;t know the english word for it) special grease-barrel to lubricate the shaft. By doing so, we hope to get rid of any water entering the bilge via the shaft.</p><p>So you see Shannon, i fully agree with you; a boat should not leak, even if it are just drops of water. And I would like to be able to store my beer in the bilge without it getting wet and all greasy.</p><p>In Dutch there´s a saying:</p><p>A boat to buy, is to work till you die. Free translation from Dutch: Koop een boot, klus je dood.</p><p>Greatings, Camiel</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am fortunate I only had one small &quot;wet&quot; area...below/around the port bow stanchion, the aft end of it is into cored deck.&nbsp; </p><p>If you only have a little bit (but sounds like you don&#039;t) then the injection method is good...the key to keeping a small area small is to dry it out well before injecting....I dried mine out for a week with heat below it and a container over top to ensure no water nor condensation got in.&nbsp; &nbsp; I dug out the wet stuff with a dental pick...like I said, I was lucky...</p><p>We have rain for weeks at a time here, 27 days straight last month, so the key here is to keep the boat as dry as reasonably possible if not using her, many blue tarps in marinas here full time.</p><p>Also, if you can, check your boat weekly for any water drips or leaks, find the source, (sometimes tough) and then fix that source, then make sure it stays fixed.</p><p>Here&#039;s what can happen with water:&nbsp; My mast has skookum new inner wiring, (done by old owner just before I bought her in 2004) but where the wires came into the boat, water was sneakly running above the mast support beam, along the wiring for the head, and along the liner ledge under the chainplates, and down the bulkhead base, and ended up both under the teak &amp; holly sole skin as well as under the sole liner to rest on top of the holding tank....would then slosh around when heeled inside and outside the liner!&nbsp; <br />I found it by my curious nature: why was water there and where was it coming from.&nbsp; I would mop it up daily, and after only a few months of ownership I figured it out...So, imagine what that water would do if left unchecked for years.....Í am of the belief that no, our boats should not leak, and if it does, I will find it! ;-)</p><p>Ok, sorry to always talk so much about&nbsp; myself and my boat! ;-)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 06:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The only problem in using the injection method on the fore or side decks of a JJT boat is the coring material.&nbsp; If its wet, and if its plywood it will most likely be wet, then you have next to no chance at getting a decent bond.&nbsp; Once you step on the repaired deck, you&#039;ll hear crackling at some point in time.&nbsp; I tapped out the voids in the decking (fore and side decks, and cabintop) and realized that the foredeck was pretty much one big void.&nbsp; Once I removed the plywood, I realized that attempting to inject the foredeck would be pretty much useless, as the wood was soaked and in some points the void (which had never delaminated, but was never actually laminated) was in the .060-.1&quot; range.&nbsp; Wow.&nbsp; If you look at my pictures, you can see some of the back decks, lookin up thru that ugly hole in the transom.&nbsp; image 19.&nbsp; The little blobs, now ground off, is the resin that is supposed to hold the coring to the underside of the deck.&nbsp; The rest of the yellowish fiberglass area was a &#039;void&#039;&nbsp; The whole foredeck was like that, and if I had to guess I&#039;d generously say that only about 25% of the plywood was actually bonded to the bottom of the deck.&nbsp; </p><p>I&#039;ve had great sucess so far, however, in injecting the cabintop decking.&nbsp; It&#039;s dry, and there is about 3/16 of glass outside of a thin core of something that I&#039;m not sure enough to say what it is yet.&nbsp; Looks like doorskin maybe, but could be pressboard or who knows what else.&nbsp; &nbsp;Whatever the case, it takes epoxy, doesn&#039;t leak inside, and taps real nice now.&nbsp; No hollow &quot;thunk&quot;.&nbsp; Just a &quot;thud&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Peter,</p><p>That looks like a nice method to me. How thick is the space between the two layers? I was actually thinking of using something that expands and than hardens. But if epoxy works, I might give it a try. I&#039;ll keep you informed about the progress.</p><p>Thanks for the compliment.</p><p>Greetings,</p><p>Camiel</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Camiel)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Camiel, I have the same problem on my 76 JJt.<br />I am using the hole drill method from west systems. Drill ahole where it sounds hollow and use a syringe filled with epoxy to fill up the void, I managed to get 2 cups of epoxy in one void, and it did not come out below decks! the crackles and softness of the deck is gone in the treated places, now I need to get the little holes look good....<br />I like your website!<br />Peter</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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