Topic: Climbing the mast

I need to get up the mast and am looking at options. What do people here have experience with?
Climbing gear seems a lot of work and may be tough on the water, and the ladders in the sail track are worthless if your main gets stuck.
I am thinking of making permanent triangle steps on the mast, does anyone have these? SS or aluminum?

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I have used climbing gear and you are right. It is a lot of work and uncomfortable. A friend has steps that fold away flush to the mast so they are not always sticking out waiting to catch things, but they are expensive and more weight aloft. Still need a safety line and climbers sliding line clip. I assume you are talking about solo climbing. A spinnaker halyard can always be used in place of a lost jib or main halyard until back in port. If you make it too easy to climb the mast you may go up more than absolutely necessary. A bad place to be.

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Does he have trouble with his feet slipping of the folding steps?
I also thought of using the vang purchase and climbing safety lock to hoist myself up.
You are probably right not to make it too easy.....
Great atlantic story Seadler btw.

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He did not mention feet slipping but I have heard that is a problem. If the boat lurches and you are twisted to the side, then your outside foot could slide off. In any case you need a way to hold the core of your body close to the mast if it is moving. One problem with the folding steps is that on the outboard end there is only a small lip, not a full strap back up to the mast to hold your foot from slipping completely off like the triangle shaped straps do.  One option I have seen is having a few steps at the top of the mast only so you can stand comfortably once you get there by some other method. Or putting steps up to the spreaders only. This is usefull for half the jobs. Is a safer distance to fall. Adds weight down low only and allows you to quickly get up above the deck if you need to see around.

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Thanks guys, lots to think about, again,
Peter

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My first trip up the mast, excluding using the yard's crane, was a memorable one.  I clipped the main halyard to my bosun's chair (a plank of wood with four stout ropes attached to a ring) and had a friend haul me up.  I'd seen this done before.  I'd seen it done on my boat in fact in exactly the same way.  What I didn't account for is that I weigh 210 lbs and the person I'd seen go up before weighed only 150 lbs. 

A pendulum effect ensued.  Or is that a pandemonium effect?

I could easily have worked on the neighbouring boat's mast as it was periodically and frequently within arm's reach, even though there was a slip between us, but would have only had a second or two before I was rudely swung many degrees to the opposite side.  At this point a friend from the yard climbed aboard to take control of the situation.  His 250lbs on top of the coach house may have helped...or maybe not.  Then the original person who had hauled me up decided he'd better get off so he stepped (jumped really) off the coach house onto the side deck with his 225 lbs.  He felt it best to do that at the exact moment we I was accelerating to that side, further adding to my velocity.  Another friend, watching from his boat, later stated that this was the moment he went below as he "could not watch anymore".

Finally someone realized that if they lowered me everything would stabilize.  And, just as Mr. Newton would have predicted, it did.

Lesson learned: sailing may be an art but science still applies.

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Very funny story, and4ew!! 

Seriously, though, I have to go up the mast, and weigh the same - and after hearing your story, makes me think a bit more....  I'm not afraid of heights, but....

I have a wind direction indicator at the very top of the mast that is leaning over and needs to be helped back into proper position (not a big job, I think).  I have been told it is much safer to do while the boat is on the hard.  Is it a simple thing to get hoisted up by someone on your own boat's winches??  Is a busun's chair really necessary for a little job like that?

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That's hilarious, and4ew!  Can I see that on youtube.com?  Seriously though, I would suggest using a hand operated crane to haul up a person which we have at Harbour West in Hamilton.  We, of course, use the crane to step and un-step masts so the weight of one person wouldn't have any adverse effects on the equipment.  I truly would recommend a bosun's chair just so you're snug and make sure that there isn't any excess movement of the mast to prevent injury to the hoisted volunteer.  Once you're up there,  tie a strap to yourself and to the mast loosely just so you have another thing catching you in case what's holding you up fails and make the necessary repairs.  I've seen it done before but I've also done the bosun's chair hoisted via the main halyard and it worked fine.  Mind you, I only weigh 165 pounds and the boat was snug to the dock so that may have played on its stability.  In any case, good luck on the climb.

José

10 (edited by KodiakGirl 2007-07-31 01:01:04)

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Regarding bosun's chair...if you have to go up definitely use the chair.  You don't want to be thinking about hanging on, doing the repair, finding tools, etc., if you're not in a (relatively) relaxed position.  Take a bag or something to hold your tools in as your pockets will be squished.

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Personally I recommend the use of a harness, Petzl Croll and Petzl Jammer with a typical UK Caving 'frog' setup - climbing up a tensioned halyard means that no pendulum effect ensues. There's also the 'look no hands' joy; sit still and you'll just dangle indefinitely.
Total weight of gear is less than 2kg. cost well under a hundred.

Would certainly recommend practicing more than a few times before doing it for real.

Bit of an easier choice for me - as I have all the gear and skills from years playing around underground!