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(3 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)

If you folks are re-working the fasteners, chances are you've revisited the sealing gasket around the hatch.  I need to replace mine - any advice about what to use there?  There are two layers of some sort of bevelled rubber stuff around mine and it doesn't seal well at all.

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(2 replies, posted in Wanted)

I have a wall mounted cooker I'd be happy to move along, but it may be too big for a Contessa, but I don't know where you intend to mount it.  If you're curious, look up an Optimus 45 stove on Youtube - there are a few clips of them on there.  Mine comes with the original cast aluminum parts for a gimballed mount in a boat.  Also, if you do go to Youtube and see the different styles you'll know what I mean when I say that mine has the "silent" style of flame spreader.  Besides the size of the thing, it may be a bit exciting to light in the confines of a Co., though I've only lit it once myself just to see if it would go, and it did.  I think that's the first and only time it's been lit - it still had the "inspected by" sticker on the burner when I got it.  I can tell you that Hal and Margaret Roth had one in Whisper, but it was a rather larger boat.

You might consider one of the small cookers meant for mountaineers - some of them came in a hanging mount meant for suspending from a rock face or inside a snow cave (seriously, you can cook in a snow cave).  If you want to go that route, go to the MEC website, to the gear swap, and ask for a hangable cooker - you might find one used.

Happy spring y'all,

Got a good bit of advice from a local salvager who'd spent about a week trying to salvage the wreck of a 34' sailboat hard up on the rocky shore of the Bruce Peninsula in persistent heavy westerlies....You know that box of disposable rubber gloves you keep on board, the one that dispenses gloves like Kleenex...do yourself a favour and put the gloves in a plastic bag or container and ditch the cardboard box.  In the watery mess that was the interior of said wreck, the stray gloves that escaped their dissolved box and went slithering around kept getting sucked onto the end of the intake hoses for the salvage pumps and choking them off...not what you want then the bunk cushions are floating and EVERYTHING is in the middle of the cabin.

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(16 replies, posted in Technical)

I just spent some time composing a message about the creation and launch of my Origami 6 folding dinghy, but the wretched website booted me off and wouldn't let me submit it - I guess I took too long.  Well, nuts to doing that again.  In short, it is a workable boat.  It rows cleanly and easily, is manoeverable and felt secure in a bit of chop - better than expected.  It is actually fun to play in.  It will carry two people competently, though you have to be flexible enough to scrunch up a bit.  It is easy for one person to carry, set up and knock down.  Haven't tried to stow it on Virago yet - plan is to put it in the v-berth area, but may end up on deck or on the stern pulpit.  I have some notes to pass along about chicago screws, fabric, and oar lock alternatives to anywone looking to build, but maybe I'll save that for a seperate message, or an off-site e-mail for anyone interested.  It was a fun project for my first home-built boat and let me learn some new skills and gain confidence.  I have plans on hand for a 16' dory....

Don't have my camera with me so no pics to pass along today.  Just thought I'd pass on that she's been launched.  As I was adamant that I would build her without help until they day I fitted the fabric (the instructions say that you'll need help for that, and you will), friends attending the launch christened her "Miss. Independence Pants".

Hi Ian,

Your last bit is the technique I used with the halyard in the c-pit.  It just honked me off when I'd go back the c-pit to re-tension the halyard only to find the reefing ring had fallen off the horn.  Virago has the reefing locks at the gooseneck like yours and I'll leave them there.  I think what I'll do next season is the following:  1) have retaining clips welded onto the reefing hooks to keep the rings in place until halyard tensioned, and/or  2) Tighten the foot before returning to the c-pit to re-tension halyard (as you do).  I was always under the impression that one ought to tighten the luff before the foot when reefing (and I still think it's better) which meant a trip to the c-pit to tighten the luff, then back to the mast to tighten the foot.  I contacted a couple of sail makers, including the one that built my main, and they said it doesn't really matter which order you do it in, so that might remove one trip between the c-pit and the mast.  Being an anti-clutter advocate, I don't want to run the reefing lines back to the c-pit.  Another thing that helps is if I heave-to to reef if it's wavy - cuts out some of the drama.  Your method of tensioning the luff by lowering the boom is not possible on Virago as the gooseneck is fixed in position - all tensioning is done with the halyard or cunningham.  Another variable on Virago is that I still use the reefing outhauls as outhauls, I haven't put cheek blocks on the boom to make fixed clew positions for reefing.  The result is that I usually end up back at the mast to adjust the outhaul tension once the reef is in anyway - I believe in trimming my reefed main.

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(7 replies, posted in Technical)

Your "visability" has a lot to do with improvements in radar technology over the years.  On the vessels I work on, we can see sailboats with no radar reflectors miles away using current shipboard technology, though a reflector may make you visible earlier depending on how high up in the rigging it is - radar signals are still dependent on height of eye (the higher the radar the better and the higher the object being observed the better).  What we have trouble "seeing" (indeed, virtually invisible) are kayaks and canoes - small craft with no metal and no flat faces that get lost in the waves.  Radar gets "cluttered" by large waves and heavy rain.  I mounted an aluminum, multi-facetted old-school reflector on my backstay just above the the fitting where it splits, then asked our local ferry if they could see me.  They said my return was as strong as the navigation buoy near Virago at the time, and that's pretty good.  However, they could also see another sailboat near me with no reflector.  I chose to put one up for sailing coastal waters at night even though I know Virago is visible to radar without it.  Hedging my bets I suppose - maybe a bigger blip or seen a bit earlier in really foul weather.  The earlier comment is true that radar only works if someone is looking at it, which we all hope they are!  I used the reflector I did because I got it for free - that's how much thought I put into that decision.

Another option that seems to be getting more popular is AIS which is a system that displays the location and motion of ships emitting an AIS signal.  One can buy an AIS receiver that allows you to see other vessels with active AIS signals which is handy for "spotting" ships before you can actually see them.

All I can say is I'm thankful for the bilge drain!  Yep, one of those long, flexible thingies for picking stuff dropped down household drains is handy, one of those things with a grabby spider-like end on it.  My little side cutters lived in the bilge for a few years before the light was just right one day and I spotted them.  Fortunately they were where I could grab 'em.  Unfortunately magnets don't work on stainless...Have considered stringing a fine net across that chasm in front of the engine, but will probably have to drop a few more things down there before I stop thinking about it and actually do it.  If I remember correctly, the NOOOO! I yelled down there actually echoed a bit.

Following up on the original post...The internal purchase experiment worked well in that it never fouled and gave me plenty of mechanical help to hoist the sail even with a load on it (not dead into wind).  It is a viable option for putting the halyard to the mast without a winch.  The only problem I had with the function of the set-up was that there were annoying snags at the foot of the mast when kinks in the line would meet the turning block.  I have decided to put the halyard back to the cockpit, however, for two reasons.  One is that I don't like the feeling of having to stand on the cabin roof in heavy weather, which I had to do to hoist the sail with the halyard coming out the foot of the mast.  I'm assuming it would be equally uncomfortable with a winch up there, though one could kneel or sit maybe if it were nasty out.  I also didn't like having to get past the flopping boom to get back to the cockpit to tighten the sheet once the sail was up.  I took my first bonk on the head from the boom in decades - the first since getting out of dinghy sailing.  So, for singlehanding with no one on the tiller or in the cockpit to help things along, I'll stick with halyard in cockpit and streamline my reefing technique.  I'm looking at putting retainer clips on the reefing horns to keep the reef rings on the sail in place while reefing is in progress - that may reduce the backing and forthing some.

Do you mean a tri-light that incorporates red, green and white?  Oops, missed the bit about reply to.....Will do.

Going even farther off track from the original posting now....

Adrian:  Yep.  I made winter hatch boards for the companionway the year I bought the boat and installed aluminum soffit vents.  I've never had a mold problem before, so I haven't given venting much more thougth than that.  Obviously I'd better start now!  Leaving the ports open is not a bad idea - hadn't thought of that.  Virago came with a lovely custom made cover that settles down over the stanchions and fits the boat like a glove all the way to the waterline.  Great in these parts where the boats are exposed to strong gales off Georgian Bay in the winters because it doesn't flap at all, so no disintgration.  However, if the concern now is better venting, fitting like a glove may be a drawback, thus maybe leaving the cover off.  Or I could look at adding some vents in the tarp.  I did not use the tarp for the first two years I had Virago and the soffit vents seemed to keep any appreciable amount of snow out, so maybe I'll try that again.

Jordan:  Good for you that the boat faired well.  You seemed to go at it with acute conscienciousness last year and that payed off.  Following the above train of thought, most boats at my marina don't use covers because they just blow off anyway, or half blow off and beat the snot out of the boat they're on and its neighbours.  If I didn't have a good tarp I wouldn't either, and I did not tarp my previous boats, so don't feel that it's a "must do " thing.   As for electronics, I don't have anything on Virago beyond the VHF and a leadline for sounding around me in anchorages, which is kinda funny given what I do for a living.  Taking the "Great Leap Backwards".

Completely not related to this topic:  How did your winter lay-up go Jordan?  Any damage?  Up here just about everyone, including me, complained of more mold and mildew in our boats than ever before.  We're guessing it's because the winter was so mild and damp, not the usual long run of cold, dry weather.  If this is the new normal I don't think I'll cover the boat in the winter anymore in an attempt to encourage ventilation.  Either that, or cover it but leave the companion way wide open for the same intended purpose (some do that here with no ill consequenses).  Darned climate change - mold in my boat and foreign beetles threatening my trees!  I want my winter back!

It all started when I decided that I don't like having to go back and forth from main halyard in the cockpit to reefing lines at the gooseneck when reefing the main.  To make a long story short, I decided that I wanted to do it all from either the cockit or the mast.  I decided for various reasons to try it at the mast, so moving the halyard to the mast it was.  However, I didn't want to mount a winch on the mast and add a cleat etc. then decide I didn't like it.   How to experiment with having the halyard at the mast without going whole hog?  I put a simple purchase inside the mast.  That gives me enough mechanical advantage to hoist the main without a winch.  Here's what I did:

The halyard comes off the head of the main and up to its usual sheave at the top of the mast, over the top and into the mast.  I cut the (old and suitably sacrificial) halyard a few inches into the mast and put a block on it.  So now there's a block in the mast dangling about 4" down from the head.   Then I took a length of rope and fixed it to the foot casting inside the mast.   The line then goes up the mast, through the dangling block and back down the mast to it's usual exit point at the foot, then up to a cleat on the side of the mast.  I'm not sure if this is 2:1 or 3:1.   I'm thinking 3:1 because the block moves and the head of the sail moves.   The only disadvantage so far is that I end up with quite a spool of line (60 ft) once the sail is up and it takes a little tangle avoidance.  So far, so good - doesn't clatter when sailing or at anchor, no foul-ups yet, runs smoothly.

The other option I'm working on is to modify my gooseneck reefing hooks in order to keep the reefing ring in the hook without having to re-tension the halyard.  That would allow me to put the halyard back in the cockpit and still cut out some of the backing and forthing that happens when reefing.  The prototype is some little spring bales made of stainless wire and welded onto the gooseneck hook fitting that will act as retainers when the reefing ring is in them.

While I love to sail, I also really enjoy this tinkering and head scratching.

Been reading old posts - the search function is handy.  I saw on an earlier tiller pilot thread, as well as in this one, that everyone has them mounted aft of the rear coaming, but Bilgeret had mentioned that, as an observation after the fact, he might have mounted his ahead of the coaming in the cockpit.  I was thinking about the same thing - has anyone out there done that?  I think I'll opt for mounting on the underside of the tiller, but where to put the power head is now the question.  Ian's comment re: better leverage traded off with reduced response time feeds into this line of thought.  Ian, does your unit work well for you in it's slightly forward position?

Planning to remove and rebed forward deck hatch.  Has anyone out there done this job already that might tell me if there are any gaskets or such that I need to have on hand before I start?  Or is it a simple remove, goop and replace project?  It's not the kind of thing I want to leave out for a month while I wait for parts!

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(12 replies, posted in Cruising)

Hi Peter,

I put a post up about this just recently, but it was on the tail end of an old thread.  I'm in the process of building a tiny folding dinghy called an Origami.  I bought the plans from the same guy Christopher bought his from (Wooden Widget). Wooden Widget has a variety of very clever plans for folding dinghies or ones that you can break apart and nest halves one atop the other.  Anyway, the Origami is 6 feet long and about 3 feet wide when open.   It folds flat to a depth of about 6 inches so my plan is to keep it stored in the v-berth either layed flat or on edge along a wall (it's only 18 inches from keel to gunwhale).  I know this doesn't solve your immediate needs, but it's a good solution if you have the space to build a tiny boat.

For the past few years I've used a small sit-on-top kayak, an Ocean Kayak "Yakboard" as a dinghy that I store on edge on the deck.  It's been fun but it has a few drawbacks - one always gets a wet bum which sucks if the water is cold or you want to go to another boat for cocktails and you don't want to be sitting in a puddle.  It takes up valuable deck space, and it is no good for carrying stuff around.  The folding dinghy I can store below deck, I can stay dry when paddling, and it has a remarkable load capacity well over 300 lbs.

Back to the Yakboard:  It's advantages are that it is fairly short at 8', it is shallow so that it  is narrow when on edge, and it is very, very stable.  It's designed to use as a swim/scuba platform as well as a surf toy, so it is meant to be stable enough to climb back aboard from in the water.  This stability also means it's easy to get on and off from Virago - many small kayaks will dump you in a heart beat.  It's rotomolded plastic so I can bounce it off the rocks around here and all it does is scuff a bit.  I won't tow a dinghy of any sort any distance but for the short hops where I've towed the Yak, it has tracked brilliantly because it has a definite keel and two hard chines.  And it is effortless to tow - no loss of boat speed.

Christopher, I'd like to trade notes with you once your Fliptail is built to see how the two boats compare.  I bought my plans just before the Fliptail was introduced, but I think I would have chosen the Origami anyway - but I like the Fliptail!  I'd be really curious about your end results.  I'm at the stage where all the components are cut out and the keel, stem and stern assembly is complete , now I'm getting ready for paint and final assembly.  It's been easy to do so far even with my basic woodworking skills and I'm really looking forward to launch day.

Just had some more random thoughts about the Yakboard...another advantage of it is that it is a sealed unit so it has its own buoyancy - it can't get swamped and fill with water on deck.  Also, it has a slightly rockered shape so it actually wraps around the forward part of the cabin top quite neatly.  And it is shallow enough that the stern end of it jams in between the cabin top and the shrouds - all of this means that I actually lash it to the hand rail on the cabin top, not the stanchions, which I think is more secure.  It's not a bad way to go all things considered.

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(16 replies, posted in Technical)

Hi all,

Ok, I broke down and bought a used tiller pilot (though still determined to master sheet-to-tiller steering!).  Question is, how does one attach the steering arm (push/pull thingy) to the ship's tiller?  Does one need the bent metal tang, or can it be attached by mounting the pin upside down directly on the underside of the tiller?  What are folks out there doing?  Pondering creating a slide-on bracket of some sort with the pin stuck to it - something that puts the load (hopefully light) onto the full thickness of the tiller.

Using this site reminds me of the old B.C. comic strip - I feel like I'm chiselling a question on a stone tablet and setting it in the sea and letting it "swim" away into the sunset, then waiting to see what answer comes back the next day.

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(1 replies, posted in For Sale)

Hi all, happy spring.

There's a 1976 Alberg 30 for sale posted on Kijiji in Owen Sound.  I exchanged a few e-mails with the owners last fall but decided that I'd stick with Virago (bless her fiberglass heart), but this may be a reasonable boat for someone looking for a bigger boat with a full keel and a spoon bow.  The asking price is $18,000.00 Cdn, but the owner indicated that that is quite flexible.  It's a fresh water boat and appears to be in good shape and well maintained, and I think these folks are the original owners.  I told them I'd post their address here: bandirichmond@rogers.com

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(3 replies, posted in For Sale)

Erman told me to pull the ad, so consider it pulled.  I guess the unit sold.

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(3 replies, posted in For Sale)

A former Contessa 26 owner is selling an Autopilot brand Tiller Pilot (an Autopilot 800 I think) that used to be on his boat.  I haven't seen it so I can't say anything about it, but I also have no interest in it.   It will be an older model, no idea re: parts availability etc.  He's asking $75.00 for it.  If you're interested contact him directly at catfish@path.com.

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(5 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

Virago is 1985 JJT model and the tracks go from aft of the primary winches all the way to well beyond the forward lower shouds  - easily half the length of the boat I'd say (the middle half).  I still use hank-on sails and in the range of sails from storm jib to drifter I use all the track from aft of the winches (drifter) to just aft of the upper shrouds.  Nothing forward of the upper shrouds (cap shrouds) so far.   If you use a roller furled sail you may get away with a short track, and if you are going to use a short track you could consider adding fixed blocks where needed for a storm sail should you find you want one.

Using the search function (who knew??) I found a thread where rbporter and Golliwobbler were discussing the removal of the head and subsequent replacement with a porta-pottie.  As I am now pondering the same operation, I'd like to know how it all ended up.  Did anyone manage to get a solid mount for a pottie?  If so, do share.  I'd dearly love to do a headectomy on Virago, but I have to have some sort of loo on board to be legal in home waters.  At this point I'm considering using the notch in the V-berth as I sleep on a quarterberth and would not be right on top of a pottie should one go there.  Someone had submitted a picture of a square pottie wedged diagonally into said space and laced down with myriad bungees - how's that working?

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(0 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

I've posted an ad in the Thing For Sale section re: someone selling sails for a Co.26  They are made for a Co.26, insignia and all.

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(4 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

Sorry for the delay in responding, I don't get on here too often....The boat had sat un-used for some years, and I hadn't used the head, so the contents (a bit of a scaly coating) were dry.  I scrubbed it out with a scrub brush taped to the end of a length of batten material so it would make the bend around the hatch and up into the tank, wearing long rubber gloves I'll add, and cleaned out the results.  Then I filled it with a bleach and water solution a bit stronger than 1:100 and sailed around like that for a couple of days then pumped it out.  Be careful of using too much bleach as it can eat some plastics and adhesives.  Would have liked to try steam but didn't have a steam cleaner available.  Have dumped chain down there, but still not brave (crazy) enough to use it for food stuffs!  This spring I found what I think is a bit of "backwash" from the head system in there, so back to the drawing board.  Really, I'd like to take the head system out completely and put in a porta-potti if I could figure out the problem of fitting it in the tiny head area.  I think someone else has covered that somewhere else on this site...