I have pulled my stanchions and, while reaching some of the bolts is a challenge worthy of a circus contortionist, I was able to reinstall the nuts.  On my 1976, there are factory-installed plywood backing plates on each stanchion base.  Your boat probably has the same.  Was there a particular stanchion where you lost the nuts?

Reinstalling the stanchions is a two-person job.  You will need to turn the nuts while someone holds the bolt heads on deck.

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(11 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

First, well noted the comments on using the laptop for navigation.  I would be very interested to learn more details of your setup.  I agree about carrying paper charts as a backup!

Interesting to hear that some of you have a board to hide the head hoses.  Perhaps my 1976-built Contessa is more spartan because the hoses are all exposed!

Although I like the idea of making more use of the head area on our boats, I personally would be resistant to placing a navigation station here because of the increased motion in the bow, and because of the difficulty of balancing on the head when on starboard tack.  Being seated in the lee quarterberth is a relief when the conditions are bouncy.  There is nowhere else to fall!

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(11 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

I thought about the same thing for a small dinette.  My project bogged down because of a lack of head room and the short distance between the galley and the companionway bulkhead.  Perhaps seating one as would be the case for a nav station it will work better.

What about mounting a flat box on a rotating post as others here have done for cabin tables?  This would leave the berth intact and still allow you to create a navigation station.

Here is one more thought -- what about going electronic with your charts?  Commercial shipping is going this way very quickly, and the boating industry is beginning to follow suit.  Not as reliable as paper charts, but more compact for our tiny boats.  I am heading in this direction for my boat and have been collecting all the necessary pieces.  When I am done I hope to run Charts, GPS, weather instruments and Radar all through a laptop computer. 

Good luck with your project!

Good question!  This is a project that I have been considering for some time.  I do not believe that there is any "right" solution.  However, my plan is fairly straightforward.

The V-berth is quite wide at its head and some of this area can be sacrificed without damaging the berth's comfort.  By assuming a standard double or Queen width berth, one leaves a triangle shaped footprint on either side of the boat.  Each triangle is formed by the edge of the standard matress, the bulkhead and the boat's hull.  Because of the taper of the hull, as you project these triangles vertically towards the deck their areas increase quite nicely.  They also terminate at the deck. 

My plan is to use your "hockeysticks and marine ply" to construct a locker on each side of this area.  One could either have them open by tipping outwards, or could simply cut openings in the ply like a cave locker.  I am still trying to decide if I prefer bins or shelves so it looks like this will be a spring project.  I am also trying to decide how to handle the forward termination of the flat panel.  If you follow it up to the deck then you have a long and fiddly curve to fit along with a lot of dead space behind, but if you terminate it with a transverse panel the installation is not as tidy.  I am leaning towards a hybrid at the moment -- follow the curve up to about 8" elevation and then truncate.

When planning this project, don't forget about the thickness of the cushion in your calculations -- it will dramatically reduce the area in which you can cut appropriate openings.

One other suggestion I will give you is applicable to all of these interior projects:  actually get on board the boat and try out a few ideas in cardboard.  I find that I often overestimate size and space on the Contessa.  For example, the distance from the hard V-berth surface to the deck is only 19".  Subtract a cushion and perhaps bedding and you have relatively little space left for the openings of your locker.

(Aside:  Another project that I have abandonnned involved replacing one of the quarterberths with a dinette such as can be found on boats such as the Tanzer 22.  Unfortunately, when I actually got into the boat and played with the dimensions, the proximity of one's head and the sloping surface adjacent to the cockpit pushed the aft seat so far forward that the only way to make the design work would be to cut out the sink cabinetry.  Too much surgery I think.)

Please keep us posted as to your progress -- I will be very curious to see your solution.

Christopher

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(5 replies, posted in Technical)

In general yes.  It IS 30 years old though.  Changing engine mounts was a challenge, and I promptly blew the starter.  But otherwise it is as advertised -- simple and reliable. 

Keep in mind that some of our fellow Contessa owners have installed twice the horsepower in their boats.  The 6.5 hp Petter will not allow you to set any speed records!

I have a PDF version of the Petter manual which I will send by E-Mail momentarily.

Cheers!

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(5 replies, posted in Technical)

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(15 replies, posted in Boat handling / Performance)

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(15 replies, posted in Boat handling / Performance)

As I continue to fight with the nemesis that lives under the cockpit sole, I have been forced to paddle my boat on and off the berth.  Satisfactory but not the best solution. 

Has anyone experience with oars for a Contessa?  I am looking for sizing and installation information.

Christopher

Unfortunately there does not appear to be an inexpensive solution for this problem.

My stemhead casting is aluminum and shows cracking where the pulpit enters the casting.  However, everything else SEEMS to be sound.  A bit of wear of course but otherwise OK.

On my boat the stanchion bases are all painted bronze castings.  Perhaps this might offer us a partial solution.  Maybe we should approach an outfit that casts in bronze and make stemheads for a number of boats at the same time.  Aluminum casting does not appear to be as common so that is why I would consider bronze. 

Alternatively, were we to prepare suitable drawings, we could have someone mill a new stemhead out from an aluminium block (or any other material for that matter. 

Unfortunately both options are costly.

I know other owners have had new stemheads prepared.  How exactly was this done?

Christopher

p.s.  If we were REALLY clever then we would take the opportunity to add anchor rollers and anything else that might be practical to include in the stemhead fitting at the same time.

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(26 replies, posted in Technical)

My boat was looking quite tough when I took her on.  A friend who polishes boats professionally (along with repairing, refitting, painting etc.) recommended a polish by an outfit called Rolite.  The polish is generally used on aircraft.  Application is with a 7" angle buffer and a sheepskin pad.  It is a commercial product and not easily sourced.  Of course you want the fibreglass polish and not the aluminum formulation.

My boat shone right up.  Send me an e-Mail and I will send you a picture of the mirror finish.  My point is that your boat's topside finish may look like it is done, but it might shine up quite well if properly polished.  It seems to me that you have nothing to lose on a giving your boat a good polish.  Certainly less costly than Awlgrip.

Good luck!

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(32 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)

Forespar makes a gadget called the Mini-Galley.  I have the older generation aboard my Contessa.  It is essentially a Bluet camping stove mounted on a double gimbal.  It works extremely well. but I have heard some cautions recently about one of the rubber seals drying out and allowing butane to leak.  Butane behaves like propane and ends up in the bilge.  Therefore one of my many projects involves fitting a gas detector...  (So many projects!)  If you decide to go with one of the older Mini-Galleys, they do come up on E-Bay occasionally at low prices (under $50).  A nice feature of the Mini-Galley is that it can be moved easily.  For example, I could fit an extra mounting bracket in the cockpit to avoid heating up the cabin on warm days.

Forespar have updated the Mini-Galley to be more robust and to use 1lb propane cylinders for fuel.  They probably address the leaky-seal safety concern at the same time.  I do not have experience with them but assume they would serve your purpose. 

The good news about a Mini-Galley is the ease of installation -- just a small bracket screwed into the bulkhead above the galley sink.

Good luck.

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(15 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

Good day!

If your bilge pump is the same as mine then it is a Henderson Mark V (sometime it is written as Henderson MK V).  It is a black beast mounted on the inside of the port cockpit locker, between the locker and the lazarette.  To do the rebuild the easiest by far is to remove the pump.

I undertook the same project two years ago.  You can still source the rebuild kits for these pumps although it appears that they are out of production.  A caution:  the rebuild kit is fabulously expensive -- comparable to a replacement pump.  However, when I complained about the price at the marine store where I purchased the kit, I was told that the Henderson is a much better pump than anything else. 

The same pump, in white, is used as the prime mover for the Lavac heads btw. 

Having rebuilt mine, it has worked like a charm.  It is well worth the expense and effort in my opinion.

Good luck!

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(6 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

I agree with Bilgeret.  The simplest solution is to place a small box on the foredeck.  I use only about 10 feet of chain at the moment -- plenty for a small boat in fresh water.  Were I to increase this, I would probably construct a low profile box in teak that could sit on deck.  The shape and location of the box depends on where you are keeping your anchor.

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(16 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)

Good day!

I have been considering a small Porta Bote for my Contessa.  My plan was to have it slung against the lifelines adjacent to the cockpit so that it would appear (hopefully!) like a weather cloth.

While not pretty to look at, the Porta Bote seems to be a reasonable dinghy compromise for our boats.

Christopher

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(11 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

Good day John!

Because of the Petter diesel it sounds like your boat is of the same vintage as mine, so perhaps my boat's set up will help you.

I currently have a Tempo 11 gallon tank that lives in the port-side cockpit locker.  This tank is a replacement and I recently discovered was poorly fitted -- instead of resting on its plywood base it sits on one of its corners pressed hard against the hull of the boat -- a situation that is neither good for the boat nor for the tank.

Based on the dimensions, I believe that the original tank on my boat was a similarly sized tank by Vetus.  Its rounded corners would have made it a much better fit.  Unfortunately Vetus tanks carry a Vetus price tag which is probably why the Tempo was used as the substitute. 

The good news is that I bought a 5.5 gallon Vetus tank on E-Bay over the winter.  Since I am lucky if my boat consumes more than a gallon a season, this will be sufficient for my purposes and if I can mount it in the main engine compartment then I free up a cockpit locker to boot!

Perhaps my old Tempo tank would be of interest to you?  Unfortunately shipping a smelly fuel tank will be a problem so unless you are close to Montreal...

Cheers!

Christopher

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(10 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

Good day!

I am looking for an electronic version of the crown sail insignia of the JJT Contessas.  Does anyone know the source?

Thanks!

Christopher

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(14 replies, posted in Technical)

I have one more question on this topic:  how exactly has the keel tank been constructed.  On my 1976 that region of the boat includes the engine seacock, two batteries and a storage locker accessed from the cabin sole.  I am wondering if it would be feasible for me to construct such a tank on my boat. 

Cheers!

Christopher

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(14 replies, posted in Technical)

I have two questions about fuel tanks for Shannon:  which tank model do you have and where is it fitted?

I ask because I am considering fitting a tank in the bilge below the engine.  I still have to check into the safety/legalities of this.  My current tank is an 11 gallon Tempo belowdeck plastic tank mounted in the port cockpit locker.  It has been poorly fitted and I intend to move it once empty (I motor rarely though so this may take a while!).  I believe that the poor fit is because the plywood base on which it sits in the locker was intended for a Vetus tank of similar size. 

Anyway, my idea is to free up the port locker by shifting the tank into some of the dead space occupied by the bilge/engine room.

Thanks!

Christopher

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(14 replies, posted in Technical)

Good day Bill!  On my 1976 the holding tank is under the V-Berth.  The only negative that I have found with this arrangement is that sewage must be pumped 'up-hill' to reach the tank.  Given the way it has been arranged under the berth, it is nearly impossible to completely clear the hose. 

Also, if your boat is like mine then yours is a bit stern-heavy.  Relatively full fresh water tanks in the forepeak would address this nicely.  That being said, fresh water tanks atop the keel would lower the centre of gravity and bring weight closer to the centre of the boat. 

I do not know for certain, but I think that these integral tanks, once contaminated by sewage, can never be cleaned sufficiently to be switched back to fresh water.  (If I am incorrect in this please let me so I can switch mine back this season!)  If you intend to venture off-shore at some point, the second water tank may be more valuable.

I guess that much depends on where you are sailing and what requirements you must meet for overboard discharge.

If your tank is like mine then you should have a space between the forepeak tank and the forward bulkhead.  On my boat this is a locker to port and seacocks to starboard.  Perhaps a flexible tank could be fitted in this space for the occasions when sewage must be held aboard.

Best regards!

Christopher

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(11 replies, posted in Cruising)

If you are considering the Caribbean for this winter, perhaps a solution would be to pass through the Panama Canal in the early spring and spend the summer on the US and Canadian West Coasts.  When you eventually truck the boat to Thunder Bay, the truck will have done the hard work of the climb.  That is, sailing out of the Great Lakes and down the Saint Lawrence is much easier than sailing up because of the strong currents and prevailing Westerly winds.

You still see the same destinations, but in an order that is better suited to the Contessa.

Christopher

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(0 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

Good day!  Here is another in a list of potential Contessa modifications.

I am considering replacing the existing boom with a wishbone boom.  The original intention had been to gain sail area between the boom and the deck but there are also the benefits of the elimination of the boom vang, and raising the boom well above heads in the cockpit. 

The downside is the cost of the boom and a new main but the latter has been on my shopping list for some time.  Using a wishbone boom would necessitate a different sail.

Any comments?

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(4 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

No doubt my jargon is wrong.  I've seen what I understood to be baby stays on larger boats but they have been permanently fixed.  Their foot was on a traveller on the foredeck and they were used not for sails but for pulling the midpoint of the mast foreward, inducing mast bend.

Do we really need the stay at all?  There is a fine piece of wire in the luff of the storm jib that would be sufficient for this purpose and would require less complexity for installation and use.  In this configuration all that would be required on the mast is a beefier spinaker topping lift, probably in spectra with a much stronger block and mast tang.  Depending upon the foot attachment point, backing plates may be required.

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(4 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

Thanks for the advice Joe!

Here are some other boat for which used sails appear from time to time. 

Mains:

Ericson 27
Soling
Santana 525
Catalina 27 Std.
J24

I suspect that the Soling mains will have a similar problem to that about which Joe wrote above.

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(40 replies, posted in Technical)

Thanks SMH.  Sounds like we would have an interesting conversation over a table littered with rum glasses and scraps of paper showing stability and strength calculations.  Perhaps I am attributing more effect than I should to the weight aloft. 

What would be interesting would be to see the impact the weight aloft and below has on the roll moment of inertia, and ultimately some of the boat's comfort.  For those who wonder what I am talking about, try moving around your boat before the mast is stepped.  The roll period of the boat (that is, the rate at which it tries to return to level) is much faster than it is when the mast is stepped.

Here is a practical thought on 350 pounds of ballast:  These boats are weight sensitive (hard to believe on a 5500 pound boat but there it is.  Note the height of the cockpit sole above the waterline.  Add 350 pounds of lead, fill all the tanks and take on all the gear for the adventure and I am all but certain that the cockpit sole will be awash due to backflow from the cockpit drains.  Since I have not yet installed the watertight seals that have been discussed elsewhere, leakage at my engine panel would be a real problem.

(Hey Christian -- you recently loaded your boat like this -- was scupper backflow a problem?)

I believe Christian's point on preparation is on track.  Know oneself and the boat, and try everything before you leave. 

It seems to me that the trick with this adventure voyage is to not pretend that one is going to set a speed record doing it.  By following a stepping-stone path and sailing in fair weather this trip could be made with relative ease.  Much as it is tempting to head to sea for a 5,000 mile passage, when one is exhausted and sick and generally fed up, a calm anchorage, a dry bed, a warm meal and a good night's sleep can radically change one's outlook.  Daysailing may not get you from A to B quickly but it is likely to keep one safer and happier!

Also, I agree that these boat are far from perfect.  My soggy poopdeck is a good example.  All boats have their faults -- that is part of the appeal I think.  It gives one something about which to daydream.  If someone knows of a perfect boat let me know.

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(4 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

I was recently drying sails (for your interest, the traveller leaks on my boat, allowing about two inches of water to accumulate and the quarterberth locker where my sails were stowed this season -- another problem for another post!) and had my storm jib set on the spinnaker toppinglift.  It would seem to me that a removable forestay could be installed at this location so that the storm jib could always be set inboard of the furled headsail.  As many of us know, roller furling is wonderful but changing sails is not.

As I brainstorm, here is how I might install such a setup.  First, the second headstay is not really important because of the wire luff of the storm jib.  Therefore I would reinforce the tang for the spinnaker toppinglift and install a much stronger block at this location.  I would then replace the toppinglift with spectra to reduce stretch.  To set the storm jib I would hoist it all the way up on the toppinglift.  I would then attach a 4:1 block-and-tackle to the tack of the storm jib a suitably strong point on the foredeck such as the forestay chainplate (still need to consider other options as to an exact location).  The sail would be tensionned from the foot instead of by means of the halyard.  The sheet need only pass through the clew cringle and can otherwise be free to move.

I would be grateful for any thoughts someone here might have.  In particular, I note that the center of effort of the storm jib shifts aft, thereby creating the possibility of more weatherhelm.  I am also slightly concerned about the unsupported load on the mast at a point midway between the tops of the lower and upper shrouds.  However the tension from the main should reduce this. 

Cheers!