There are definitely regulations regarding the positioning and visibility of navigation lights - visibility includes distance visible and arc of visibility. These are clearly spelled out in the Collision Regulations (long form is The International Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions at Sea) and are layed out according to vessel length. I can't say off hand where you'd find the ColRegs on line, but I can say for sure that there's a hardcopy here where I work. I'll look it up and post it here. I do know that current LED technology does not create lights that meet the requirements for a Contessa, even in clusters of, say, 20 they're too dim - especially when you put them behind a red or green lens.
101 2007-04-06 12:08:15
Re: Bow light ? (idiot's guide to) (12 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)
102 2007-04-06 12:02:37
Re: Weather Helm? (29 replies, posted in Boat handling / Performance)
No claim to disenfranchisement made - it's more that I am baffled as to why humans need to categorize the people around them and then set behavioral expectations for those groups, including those in their own community. What does this have to do with sailing? This series of exchanges demonstrates that there are still gross generalizations made, people who will loudly proclaim their own agendas, those who are uncomfortable with disturbances to the peace, and those who are just trying to get on with a life as they choose to live it - even among sailors.
103 2007-04-04 11:45:38
Re: Weather Helm? (29 replies, posted in Boat handling / Performance)
I want one of those shirts!!!! Sailing it is - lets go!
This is a divergence from the original topic if there ever was one but what the heck...
In all seriousness, I am often puzzled by the real and percieved differences between males and females, especially when it comes to physical risk taking. In my professional life and my play time I do things that are largely mens' occupations, but there are also a few women. We constantly swim against a current that does not encourage women, but we do the activities because we love them and a side effect of that is that it shows that we can; That there's no reason for us not to. On the other hand, it's easy to lark over timid women, but we don't often point and laugh at timid men (no kick in the shins for Tubatooter there, just a general observation of different social norms). It's a large and complicated topic but I'm not sure why - where do these perceptions, expectations and occasional truths come from? It's a question that has challenged me my entire life (so far).
104 2007-04-01 13:03:41
Re: Weather Helm? (29 replies, posted in Boat handling / Performance)
You go KodiakGirl! Mr. Tooter should consider who his fellow sailors are...not all women are living, breathing (screaming?) levo-gages!
105 2007-02-21 11:24:57
Re: Book reviewing (9 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
I'll be disappearing again soon, so here's my suggestion: For new and shellbacks alike, cruise your local used book store for a copy of "Boating in Canada" by Garth Griffiths. It was published back in the late sixties and was the text used by the Canadian Power Squadrons for all their courses right through to the eighties I think. It covers piloting, hull construction and basic stability theory (centre of gravity, righting arm, buoyancy etc), boat handling, rope work, tides and currents, the physics of waves and the basics of weather - the whole kit and kaboodle. Some of it is dated but it is still a good general reference. It also encourages good seamanship - something many recreational boaters lack these days. It is a large format book but not thick, and the cover without the dust jacket is bright red, so it's not hard to spot. I've seen copies in used book stores, rummage sales etc. - they're not rare and they're not expensive.
Another useful book that you might find used is called "The Handbook for Non-Macho Sailors" by Katy Burke. It offeres some good ideas on how to do things using your smarts if you can't rely on brute force and ignorance. Also has some good logistical and safety tips for living in, and working on, a small cruising boat (the author cruises in a Flicka 24). A good reference for new sailors, but I still find it handy as a single-hander (a single hander who is over 40...)
106 2007-02-21 04:30:18
Re: Boat on a Train: A Novel by Shannon Rae (heh heh) (21 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Hi Shannon, Look up the definition of Virago (not the harsh, shrewish woman!) and you'll find that Artemisia was a virago.
107 2007-02-21 04:25:37
Re: Singlehanding (19 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Update on the Voyager tiller lock: I contacted Holland Marine Products myself and inquired about the item; Sadly it is no longer made. When I unwrap Virago in the spring I'll get someone to take some detailed digital photos of it and post them here. I'll include some measurements too. Hopefully someone with a machine shop will find some inspiration. In the mean time, I'm glad I peeled mine off Imp when I sold her...
108 2007-02-20 04:39:24
Re: Book reviewing (9 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Bilge, where you thinking of a list starting here and now, or lobbing the idea to Adrian to see if he'd start a new topic heading? As for the content, I have no problem finding books - ordering or foraging like eebygumcaptain - but it's is nice to get recommendations from reader. Perhaps if we go for recommendations with a suggestion of where to find it if the book is not common. Not meaning to take over your idea here....
109 2007-02-18 18:04:58
Re: Book reviewing (9 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
That is a grand idea! Much of what I know about boats and boating has come from some well-thumbed copies of favourites (and yes, Letcher's book is on the list for my next order from the Nautical Mind). Not all of it comes from text books either, some accounts of voyages provide excellent tips and insights into everything from seamanship to the psychology. Posting book titles and reviews would allow us (well, me anyway) the great pleasure of snooping through other peoples' libraries for those titles yet unknown.
110 2007-02-14 18:47:59
Re: Singlehanding (19 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Hi Jim,
Unfortunately they are devilishly hard to find - they are made in small numbers by a tiny company (one guy in his machine shop methinks). Brewer's doesn't have a website, and I'm not at home right now to look it up. Check your local supplier if you're in Canada - but not West Marine because they're American wearing Canadian boxer sorts - I doubt they'd carry a rare Canadian product. If I can source them out I'll let you know, but you'd likely have as much luck on your own. You might try a small outfitter in Thornbury Ont., Gyles Sails and Service - I think that's who ended up ordering mine in for me several years ago. Take a crack at info@gylessails.com to contact them. I know for sure that Brewer's has a 1-800 number if you ask directory assistance. Also try HMP (Holland Marine Products), also a large Canadian supplier (wholesaler and retailer).
111 2007-02-14 18:35:25
Re: Original Port Holes & Hatch Parts Supplier (16 replies, posted in Technical)
Clever. I think I'll copy that. Thanks for the idea!
112 2007-02-13 17:44:32
Re: Original Port Holes & Hatch Parts Supplier (16 replies, posted in Technical)
Don't do it!!!! I ordered a new set of screens from Atkins and Hoyle and they were so crappy I sent them back and swallowed the shipping charges to do so. They are nothing at all like the originals. The new ones are just rims cut out of flat pieces of plastic with a sheet of screen glued to them. The workmanship was terrible - you could see where whoever was cutting out the plastic parts let the saw wander, backed up, then carried on leaving a gash in the plastic. The edges were left raw, no sanding etc. - all very amateur. The mounting nubs are gone and what one is expected to do is to drill holes in the aluminum window casings and mount the screens with screws. Methinks you could do better, or at least as well, on your own and save yourself a heap of money to boot. Yes, they charged a gob of money for these laughable ( or would they be cryable?) products. I may resort to doing a neat job with screen material and strips of velcro.
In the mean time, I sewed pyramid shaped screens (more like steep roof shaped) that drop over my open deck hatches for those buggy anchorages. I stitched a length of light line around the bottom of them and attached clip-on weights originally made for holding down table cloths on picnic tables. They work great and allow me stellar ventilation on hot summer nights. A good sourse of soft, flexible screen is a dead tent. Still puzzling out a good way to screen the companionway without making another set of hatch boards(a set with screens) that I then have to stash somewhere.
113 2007-02-13 17:27:39
Re: Singlehanding (19 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Going waaaayyyy back up to the top of this pile of entries, there was some mention of a Tiller Tamer. There is a product made here in Canada called the Voyager tiller pilot (I think...I'm sure about the Voyager part, but not the rest of it) Anyhoo, I have one on Virago, and I used it a lot on my previous boat too. The Voyager product is a cam lock type device made of stainless steel and brass. It mounts on top of the tiller and a line passes through it to either side of the cockpit (I have the ends shackled to the pad eyes for the main sheet blocks), the cam lock grips the line and holds the tiller in place. When it is released, the line passes freely through the clamp and does not hamper tiller movement at all. What I like about this simple invention is that it is easy to release the line completely from the locking device and just as easy to put it back in again - simply lift the cam jaw, which is open on one side, and slip the rope out, or open it and slip the rope in again. This is handy when you want to be able to lift the tiller while sailing, or clear the rig out of the cockpit to make room for people. And I like that it is all metal construction instead of plastic. Here in Canada you can order them through Brewer Brothers chandlery in Hamilton Ont., I dare say one could be sent to Peter (or ordering details) if he's interested.
114 2007-02-13 17:03:57
Re: Trim tab (4 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)
Hi all,
I'm back for a couple of weeks. During this brief window of contact I'd like to hear from anyone who as any more to say about trim tabs on Contessas. Next summer I intend to goof around with refining self-steering on Virago - messing about with sheet-to-tiller arrangements etc. However, I'd also like to explore the possibility of a trim tab steering gear.
115 2006-12-03 17:11:04
Topic: End of season for me (1 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
The navigation season here on the Great Lakes is winding down and so is my work season, and so goes my access to the computer. I don't know where I'll be posted next season, so I don't know if I'll be back on-line or not. Thanks to all for the fun and the tips and the universe of Contessa sailors far and near. I'm going home to tend my fire, drink tea from a large mug, and play in the snow on sunny days.
Casting off fore and aft,
Deb
116 2006-11-14 17:28:04
Re: Building a New Contessa (16 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Last remark from me before going home again for a while. I never meant to sound distainful of other boats, or their sailors, though I likely did. My opinions express wistful sadness for what is lost, not distain for what is - elegant simplicity is out of fashion in pretty well every facet of modern western life. As for the term "fat ass boat", it seems to have become something of a general term in this forum for the big, baloon-like, modern boats - we could come up with a different term. If I am going to mangle my intentions with words, I'll end with the classic "I've got friends who sail fat ass boats" and leave you all reeling with political incorrectness.
Perhaps I should have taken the name Curmudgeon Deb.
117 2006-11-14 16:52:23
Re: Teak treatment (5 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)
Thanks for answering that question. I'll be refinishing the wood trim on Virago next summer and will give that product a try, providing I can get some! You are right to be afraid of varnish.
118 2006-11-11 06:16:22
Re: Building a New Contessa (16 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Evolution does go on, but why do we Contessa/Alberg/Folkboat fans hunt for our boats so keenly? Because they're great boats for the way we like to sail and you can't get anything like 'em anymore. I haven't looked at the new boat market much these days, but I see what's in the various marinas where I work and play. Maybe there are good small boats being built, but I don't see them on the water (except the ubiquitous cheap MacGregors). Good used small cruisers sell, but I don't see new ones. Pretty well all the new boats I see are big, light displacement "fat ass boats" as they seem to be called. Even the small day sailer/weekender boats are left-overs from the early 80's. Is that a function of supply or demand, I wonder?
Maybe it is largely a function of economics - who's got the money and what they want in a boat, and as Stefan suggested, what their money will get them. The used market is always there for those of us with "old fashion" tastes and/or small wallets. Maybe the new boat market reflects the shrinking disposable income in the middle classes and the strong economics for the moneyed. It is said that money talks, and maybe money says "big fat assed boat, please".
P.S., Where, generally speaking do you live, SteveM? Perhaps there is a different sailing environment and boat market where you are compared to here on the Great Lakes.
119 2006-11-10 15:03:43
Re: Building a New Contessa (16 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Interesting conversation...I'm going to float the idea that technology has something to do with it. With roller furling, power winches and windlasses etc, people can manage much bigger boats and the associated gear than they could several decades ago when everything was done with "arm-strong" technology. Also, autohelm will steer a boat that is not a natural course keeper; The sailor does not have to rely on lateral plane and good hull and sail balance anymore to keep a straight(ish) line. Thus fin keels, post mounted spade rudders with no skegs etc. can be designed into a boat for speed with little consideration for her directional stability. We've also become creatures of comfort - we want hot and cold running water, showers, a gas range and a microwave oven, lot of clothes and toys, stereos, televisions, and lots of electronics to do our piloting and navigation for us, and all that takes space - not just for the objects themselves, but for the systems that support them such as batteries and generators, and lots of tank capacity. I've just finished living three years with no indoor plumbing or electricity, and there are many who would not come to visit me for a week-end for lack of facilities let alone jump into a small boat and add cramped and wet to the list of hardships. As a local commercial fisherman put it, "...it used to be that the boats were wood and the men were steel...".
On the other hand, SteveM's inventory of current pocket cruisers is encouraging.
120 2006-11-10 09:45:08
Re: Rendezvous 2006 - Lake Ontario Edition (71 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
I'm too may be looking to stay in the 'burbs and take the GO train in. I may be bedded down in Burlington with rellies and catch the train there, or I could go along with an Oakville rafting. Any notion of a meeting date yet?
121 2006-11-09 13:07:21
Re: need help with Force 10 stove gimbals (7 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)
Hi All,
The installation of the gimbals didn't seem difficult, nor would be the removal of the old ones, but what baffled me is that the alcove is about five inches wider than the stove with gimbals, so how to mount the Origo gimbals in the alcove neatly and still have them reach the stove? I would like to maintain the fire and heat resistance of the metal lined alcove and don't want to introduce wood. Perhaps photos of an Origo stove mounted on Origo gimbals would help. In the mean time, I'll keep trying with my home-built rig. Or I'll just stick to the velcro (ha!) and skip the gimbals all together...
One of the possible solutions to the "how to get at the cannisters" puzzle is to put a shelf directly below the stove, tight enough to the stove that it won't swing when the board is in, but the stove will swing with the board out. In other words, instead of taking the stove to a solid work surface for filling, I'm taking the solid work surface to the stove. I believe the stove will be positioned such that there will be clearance enough behind it to lift the lid. Also, the pivot pieces I've salvaged are from an old depth sounder mount and an old Loran mount and are threaded. Once the rig is assembled I can tighten down the pivots to hold the stove steady, then loosen them up when it's time to swing (!). Between these two precautions I think it should be ok. But that's only in theory, the reality could be different. As in my original post above, I'm not certain that I have the pivots in the alcove mounts properly.
Thanks for the input, and keep it coming if you have more to say. As anyone who works alone will tell you, sometimes it's good just to bounce ideas off someone else's head to see if they sound the same.
122 2006-11-06 19:27:38
Re: need help with Force 10 stove gimbals (7 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)
Thanks Steve. I'd appreciate the effort. I take it the round bits of bar that sat in the cups were round, not oval? The reason I ask is that I have scrounged up some fittings that I think will do for the pivots, but when they are seated in the cups and the brass clamps applied over top, there is not much of the circular pivot part captured by the top clamp. I am afraid the top of the circle will pull out from under the clamp when the wight of the stove is swinging on it. How much of the pivot bar is captured under the clamp in the original set up? I'll look for your email address tomorrow and pass along mine. Failing that, I'll post my email address in my profile for a few days and you can find mine there.
123 2006-11-06 17:00:38
Topic: need help with Force 10 stove gimbals (7 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)
OK gang, I need either a picture or 1000 words - your choice....
I want to put my Origo stove on gimbals. I actually had in hand a set of Origo gimbals but rejected them because it would take too much farkling about with the stove alcove to make it all fit well. I'm guessing that the Origo stove is rather smaller than the origial F10 item. Anyhoo, as the F10 gimbal mounts are still firmly mounted in my stove space I've decided to take a run at fabricating (or "faking" as I prefer to call my actions) a set of gimbals that will adapt my Origo stove to the F10 gimbal mounts. I have designed the swing arms and even come up with mounting pieces that will fit in the half-round cups in the F10 mounts but I am only guessing at how it all went together in the first place. It would save me a fair bit of head scratching if I could get a picture or description of what these mounts look like for real. If anyone out there has already hung an Origo stove in the original F10 gimbal mounts on a Contessa, feel free to elighten me.
124 2006-11-03 16:02:21
Re: Origo Alcohol smell (6 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)
Here I am, close to a computer but far from my boat again. I had another notion about the light-up problem but can't test it at the moment. Try lighting the burner on a lower setting (with a smaller aperture over the burner opening). You may not have to have the burner control fully open to light the stove, thus you may get hit with less of a blast at the start. When I was at Virago the last time I did light the stove and I did pay attention to the lighting of it because of this discussion and I will say that there is a smell when I light it, but it's not enough to tear my eyes and drive me from the cabin.
125 2006-11-03 15:25:07
Topic: Tip re: rigging and winter (1 replies, posted in Technical)
I choose to take my mast down for the winter primarily because it gives me a chance to inspect the standing rigging for wear, damage, cracks etc. A simple way to find what otherwise may be invisible cracks in swage fittings, spreader stumps and castings such as the ball joints at the head of a Contessa mast is to wipe them with a bit of iodine. If there is a crack in the metal the iodine will stain where the crack is. The crack will appear as a thin brown line.