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It's a vertical flange, with the downward turning deck lip on the outside.  Unfortunately it's riveted.  Then they caked some putty in there and thats it.  Nothing special, I'd rather see an inward facing flange, thru bolted.  Can't have it all but with my glasswork it's stronger and probably 99.98% watertite now...

maybe it's time to think about switching marinas??   it seems that prices are skyrocketing in the 1000 islands area, with less and less reception to sailboats, smaller ones in particular....  i guess thats because we do most of our work ourselves, and they make nothing on serving engines, outdrives, etc....  who knows....

Leave the fuel tank outside and high - no need for a lift pump to get the fuel to the engine's lift pump (Yanmar 1gm10 lift pump has a suction head of some 3 inches or so....  not enough by itself).  Also, if you're unfortunate enough to have to remove the tank, its easily done with little or no mess and diesel smell below.  You can take a Tempo 3 or 6 gallon plastic tank and make a nice "semi-permanent" installation by building a proper shelf, fitting a vent (and a deck fill if you so desire, but the less holes you have in the deck the better) and strapping the sucker down with 2" webbing.  You could do the same with an alum or SS tank as well, but $$.........  When she has to come out, and it's not if, it's far easier dealing with diesel if it isn't down below.....  If you're going to put a tank below put a water tank down there.......

skippert:

if you're seriously going to look at the boat, bring a moisture meter and a friend or two who know boats real well.  they'll pick up on what you don't know, and what each other misses.

moisture in the decks:  this is what i got.  bring a moisture meter, and possibly even remove one thru deck fitting on either side to see the state of the coring.  if it's wet, see my pictures.  this is what you've got on your hands.  on the inside, check for tracers - water marks dripping down the chainplates.

the springiness and crunch in the foredeck is from delamination.  rather non-lamination, because the fiberglass decking was never properly bonded to the plywood coring.  i don't have any pictures of mine, but i'd say that it was only about 10-15% bonded (plywood to fiberglass) over the whole foredeck.  the boats always been like that, and always will unless you pull down the decking and rebond like me.  there's no sense in trying to fill with epoxy - you'd use probably 2 gallons and never get the thing to stick anyways.  my boat went to hawaii with decks like that, so..... 

as far as rot and mildew go, this isn't too bad.  the only wood in the boat is the bulkheads and cabinetry.  everything else is glass.  javex and scrubbrush.

the rig is probably original, so figure to replace at least the standing rigging.  sails?  who knows.  engine?  again - gotta go have a look. 

it's worth going to check out, even if it turns out to be a bomb, you've not wasted 2 hours of driving because you havae something to compare the next one too.  good luck...  cheers all

stef

could head down from oswego thru the canal to new york and head to bermuda from there.  it'd be a good start and a mini shakedown to cross lake ontario under sail, but lots elect to drop the mast kingston area and motor across the lake....  that way you can start mid mayish, and don't have to truck the boat at all......

Cody - did you buy that boat that was all apart and advertised on here a while ago?  The one with the nice trailer?  It probably has solid side decks - no wood.  Man that would have been nice....... 

Looks like a project like mine...  Just curious..  Cheers

Usualkly, in the crutch where you need your electronics most the conditions are not condusive to things working right (wet, rough, etc) or maybe you've got a halfassed electrical system that's ready to give up the ghost (lots, more like most, are...  seen em) There's more possibility for failure in the systems required to power fancy elecronics than there is of an experienced navigator forgetting how to find where they are. 

GPS and Radar should only be thought of as a tool, a backup, a means to verify that you are where you think you are.  Because when the lights go out, you've got nothing.  They're great toys, but cannot be relied upon 100%.

Yeah it's an Origo 4000.  I wasnt the one that had the fire.  The previous owner had the fire off the west coast on her way to vancouver.  I don't know the particulars.  From what I've read, if you run those non press alcohol stoves for a long time (1.5+ hrs) at mid/high heat, then the fuel will spill over the cannister and catch on fire.  Seems to be what happened here.  I don't really know, nor can I explain this happenining, but I guess it's happened to some people.  I dont think I'll ever run that stove that hard or that long to find out.

If you had a 4 cyliner honking away, you might move some water.  But the engines typically found in the cramped "engine room" on these Contessa's don't move all that much water.  Realistically, my Wilcox Crittendon Imperial 51 head will move more water.  A 5 gallon bucket will run the engine for a few minutes (testing in the driveway....)  Better to set yourself up with a double redundant electric setup (no I'm not crazy, what else are you going to put in the bilge, besides the rum tank) and a big manual sucker.

Doubtful that the coachroof is indeed solid laminate - if you look real close it looks like about .040 or so (1 mm for you metric folk) of laminate in the form of pressboard or doorskin.  I hear that in early english boats (not just Co's) they used something similar, and it would be reasonable to infer that early Canadian boats were similarly built.

As far as the cabintop goes, I'm just working on injecting the voids from the top.  It doesn't seem that the bottom layer on my boat has come downwards, but there are lots of voids on top.  I'm going to re gelcoat the works, so I'm drilling a few more holes than average.

The side decks, in the earlier boats, are all plywood and are prone to wetness.  Not fun to fix.  That's all I say.  If they're wet, which the probably are, then the only solution is replacement.  I'll get some pictures up as soon as I can...

Cheers

Stefan

Ideally, in a "static" (ie not sailing) state, you'd like to get the most water off the decks as you possibly can.  Water moves around a pile when you're sailing, and if you're beating you're tacking and no one spot stays wet for very long (save for where the hole is in your foulies).  Real damage occurs all week when you should be out sailing but have to go to work.  Water sits.  And sits.  And gets into places it shouldn't.  Skip a few weekends for people who get married during sailing season (I'll never ruin a good sailing weekend for anyone...)   Throw in some previous owner's lackadaisical maintenance of any thru deck fittings or holes.  Add this up over the years and what do you get?  Rotten plywood decks.  Trust me - it's not the funnest nor the easiest job to replace them.  All I want to be thinking about all week that the majority of the water that wouldn't make it out the deck drains isn't standing and undoing all of the work I've done all summer - that is when I'm unfortunate enough to be at work instead of just tacking and drying the other side off.....