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(0 replies, posted in For Sale)

Hi all,

There are some Co.26 sails for sale by someone other than me, but I told him I'd post them here - the most likely place to sell them.  There is a main and a hank-on genoa - a 150% I think, both from the mid-80s.  I bought one sail from this fellow (a drifter), and it was in good shape, but I haven't seen the other two sails so I can't say what shape they're in.   The prices aren't high.  If you're interested, DON'T CONTACT ME!  Contact the owner, his name is Erman, at catfish@pathcom.com.   The sails are in Mississauga, Ontario (outskirts of Toronto).

This may be common knowledge out there already, but I found a website that has an "exploded" diagram of our Barlow #15 and #16 winches as well as instructions on how to take them apart lube them, and put 'em back together again.  Looks like the original manufacturers product guide.  It's at maximalt.dk  It is printer friendly to boot.  It says to inspect and lube them quarterly, more frequently during racing season, which made me laugh 'cause I don't think mine had been touched since they were installed new.

Last year the plastic ring that makes the top flange of the barrel split in two then jumped off one of my #15s (the ones on the coach roof).  Of course, it went straight into the water and was gone.  Fortunately there is a guy at our marina who was a machinist and made me a new set - they're turned out of white nylon plastic.  The other original one was split too, so I took it off and am keeping it as a template in case I have to have another set of new ones made one day.  Why am I telling this tale?  Because it was the only way for me to get new top rims, and it may work for you too if you can find a local machine shop where someone works with plastic.  The secret to getting them on, because they were turned to the exact size of the originals, was to heat them in hot water to expand them, install them, then when they cooled they locked into place on the top of the winch.

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(4 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

I guess this topic is drifting into something that shoud have been under the "Performance" heading...To clarify the question, has anyone stepped their mast using the aft position and, if so, how much difference does it make to the balance of your boat? Any? Lots? None?  I know mast rake and sail trim factor into this, but generally speaking, has anyone monkeyed around with mast step position?

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(9 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

Like so many others I took out the door and have a curtain I hang only when I need it.  I also took a length of 2" webbing with a plastic Fastex snap buckle on it and attached it to the wall behind the toilet.  This makes a "seat belt" of sorts for a bagged sail so the un-used space is now a sail locker when I'm not on the can.

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(9 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

oops, sorry for the double message...thought one got lost in cyber space so came back to delete one and can't and this screen won't let me escape without writing something....

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(4 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

Panic not!  Your boat is older than mine and the older boats have a different mast step - one that does not require a pin.

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(4 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

Ok, ok, on the cabin roof, I know....but what I mean is, on Virago there is a plate on the coach roof where the foot of the mast is stepped. There are two choices of where to pin the mast, one hole ahead of the mast and one hole behind.   The wear marks suggest that the pin has always been in the forward hole, which sets the foot of the mast in a slightly forward position.  What do others do with this model of JJT boat?  I've always stepped the mast the way it's always been stepped, but I'm open for change.  What are you finding is best?

Hi all,

Back on line for a wee bit.  Been working on the harness and tether question too.  I used a similar technique to Andrew's idea on a previous boat where I had a long tether looped around the base of the mast and I ran around the boat like a dog tied to a tree.  I recently put together a similar rig for Virago where I have an 8' tether shackled to the mast step plate.  I can snap the free end of this onto my harness for moving out of the cockpit and onto the deck. This time I'm also keeping a 3' tether on my harness for a short hook-up when I get to where I'm going, and for in the cockpit.   I'm not keen on jacklines and prefer to be hooked to a fixed point.  This system worked well before but that boat didn't have rope clutches on the deck either - they may be coming off.  The 8' length is only just enough to let me reach the forestay - 10 feet would have allowed for some slack, but I want to keep the run of webbing as short as possible.  Eight feet lets me get to the bow pulpit where I can then hook on with the short tether.  I had considered a ring around the mast too, but I can forsee two problems: 1) it will foul on the boom vang and antenna coax etc.  2) in the very remote chance the mast comes down....

At work we use a system with two tethers and zillions of attachment loops all over the boat and we go hand-over-hand, clipping and unclipping in such a way that we're never not attached.  This is a very secure way of working as you can only ever travel a few feet in any direction (or barely at all if you're hooked to two points at once).  I've tried to figure out a way to do it on a Contessa but it is cumbersome.  The next best answer for me is the central fixed point at the base of the mast.

Been puzzling about re-boarding too.  I'm not going to bet that I can reach my swim ladder or deploy it.  Some books suggest a simple rope ladder on either side that you can flip down into the water if needed.  I'm thinking of something like the becketted lines you see on lifeboats - the slack ropes that hang down along the sides.  Becketted lines draped between the stanchion bases might at least give me a place to plant a foot or a knee and heave myself up, or a place to hang on while I try to manoever to where I can climb up.  I haven't tried this yet.

Another idea I had is not unlike John's: Run jacklines along the cabin top by the hand rails as usual.  Run two more, one on each side, from the stanchion bases next to where the upper jacklines end to the bow cleats.  This way you can move forward to the end of an upper jackline then hook on to a lower one and move all the way to the bow.  This lets you keep a short tether and it also keeps the foredeck clear of tripping hazards.  I'm all about staying on the boat.

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(1 replies, posted in Non-Contessa Chatter)

Gotta get all this stuff in while I have a computer....This came with my boat when I bought it, so I can't take credit for it.  Virago has a bow roller on it (good) but a second anchor can be hung on the bow as follows:  A length of sewage size ABS(?) plumbing piping (about 18" of the shiny black stuff about 4" diameter) is attached to one of the upright members of the bow pulpit using really big hose clamps.  An anchor is dropped in it stock first and there you go.  I have a plough in the roller and a bruce in the pipe.  I added a little notch in the top edge of the pipe for the curve of the anchor throat to rest in.  A length of light line can be used to keep the head of the anchor from excessive motion if things are rough.  Anchor is not attached to a rhode (the plow on the roller is!), but is conveniently stored for a second/spare to deploy on my second rhode which has the appropriate shackle already on it and ready to go.

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(8 replies, posted in Repairs/Modifications/Upgrades)

On port side.  Works fine.  Gate in lifelines of course.  Ladder lives in up position tied to stern pulpit rail, easy to reach from water to release slip knot to let ladder down (watch it don't bonk yer head).  Would suck if it was on windward side of a healing boat though....Also very convenient for getting on/off little sit-on-top kayak I use for dinghy.  Can't remember if it's three or four steps, but first step is submerged and easy to reach from in water, second is at water level, one more and out...that seems to add up to three.

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(5 replies, posted in For Sale)

Hi guys,

Thanks for fielding that one Jose!  I'm back on line for a week.  Yes the sail is for sale.  Golliwobbler: When I looked at sending it to the Carolinas it was about $100.00 US door to door by UPS.  I'm guessing it would be about the same to DC.  The only thing I'd suggest is that you look at any extra cross-border charges that might get tacked on unexpectedly (duty at the border etc.)  If you got jklee's main, good for you - if not, let me know and we can work something out.  My old main is in fairly good shape as in no patched rips, no abrasions or fraying, hardware still firmly attached.  As stated before, it's been modified for full battens (one way to breathe new life into an old main), and all the battens are with it.   It worked pretty well - the main reason I got rid (ha ha, no pun intended) of it is because I don't like full battens.

As for helping a baggy main - the only solution I know of is to put full battens in it as was done to Virago's.   For comparisons, my new main was about $1700.00 CDN.

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(0 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

Had a new main build last winter by Elvstrom-Sobstad (now just Sobstad again I think).  Sailed all last season with it and it's a good sail - good weight, nice shape, sets easily, well reinforced and made specifically for cruising (not racer/cruiser), all fittings installed neatly and strongly.  I went with a loose foot, which I've never had before, and rigged a simple 3:1 purchase for an outhaul.  On the good side, it makes it easy to set the foot tension and keep a nice sail shape all the way to the bottom.  On the down side, it's a bit more of an effort to bundle and tie the sail once dropped because the length of the foot is not captured along the length of the boom, so it has a tendancy to end up partly under the boom instead of piled neatly on top.  Could have slides or bolt rope put on the foot later if wanted, but so far so good. Also opted for three rows of reefing which I don't regret.

Given the range of options from no battens to full battens, I went with one full batten just at the very top and extended battens for the other three.  Extended battens go from the leach to about the mid-line of the sail.  The batten pockets that Sobstad put in the sail have a little fold of fabric at the leading edge that, while adding a little drag in the flow over the sail, I think will prevent pocket failure that makes battens a problem in some cruising sails.  Only time will tell.  The sail sets well and is easy enough to handle in this configuration (I don't use lazyjacks).  I agonized a bit over this decision - whether to go dirt simple and foolproof with no battens and the resulting sail shape (smaller sail, hollow leach), or with the original short batten design, or with the battens I did choose.  The configuration I chose works well for the way I sail in the waters I sail on (Great Lakes, light winds in mid-summer, stinkin' windy in the spring and fall).  If (when) Virago goes for an extened voyage, I think it will still be a viable choice.

One thing I will have Sobstad change this winter is the way the sail slides are attached.  They used plastic  shackles but I want them replaced with webbing loops as on the original sail (which I had assumed they'd do so had not specified).  It's not that I don't trust the shackles, but I find that they can bind slides in the track when raising or lowering the sail if the boat's not dead into the wind.  As I sail alone with with no one on the helm and no autopilot or such, I am not often dead on the wind!

All in all, it's a good sail - Sobstad made a nice product (my choices are what they are).

Oh ya, it clocked in at under $1700.00

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(5 replies, posted in For Sale)

I guess my old main is still for sale  - can't seem to connect with earlier interested party.  Anyway, it's the original main from 1985 and was modified to full battens sometime in it's life.  It's a bit baggy for windward work in a breeze but still drives the boat well enough.  Put a reef in and it flattens out quite ok.  It's basically free for the cost of shipping.  I just want it out of my shed.

Further thoughts re: position of water tank in later models....Maybe it has nothing to do with balance and more to do with how JJT re-worked the boat.  From what I can read, JJT lowered the floor in the boat to increase the headroom, which may have crowded out the original water tank.  Perhaps they moved the water tank to the bow in order to keep the tank volume suitable for longer distances.  Regardless,  a full tank still puts my boat down by the bow.  The soft tank under the floor solution may work because it makes use of what little room there is below the cabin sole.   I believe Varuna had the water tank moved to a position under the floor at the time of construction - do we know if the holding tank was used as a water tank, or if a different tank was installed?

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(0 replies, posted in General Questions/Comments)

Who of you was in the Windsor area?  I remember being in contact with a Contessa sailor who was in this area, but I can't remember who it was.  I'm working south of Windsor and would meet seek out Contessas in these waters.  Send and e-mail if getting together is a good idea.

I'd like to hear how your experiment turns out Christopher.  And I hadn't thought about the drainage of the head as I don't use my head - but that is a good point.  Also, the water tank lightens up with use, unlike the holding tank if it's used.  I wonder how the long distance Contessa sailors pack their boats and if they pay any attention to trim and balance.  I've loaded mine for 4 weeks on the Great Lakes, but I'll bet that's different from loading her for 8 weeks in blue water.  For rbporter - the lines on Virago are original to the boat - an '85 JJT.  So far they seem to be well placed - the waterline is at the waterline stripe of a lightly loaded boat, down slightly by the stern due to the engine (original Buhk diesel), but the boot top is still dry.  The boot top becomes the waterline when she's loaded, but the full load of water that got me started on this topic puts the boot top under at the bow, but I think that's a load distribution puzzle more than a function of the lines.

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(3 replies, posted in Wanted)

I replied to your e-mail with an affirmative answer.  Let me know if you don't get any email.

I don't think I'd get that particular!  I'm not gunning for dead level so much as I don't want to muddle up the physics of the hull too badly.  There's a good article in Good Old Boat this month on what makes a boat seakindly.  That's what I want to protect in my boat - her good manners and seakindliness.  Thanks for the feedback and thoughts though, it's good to think "out loud" sometimes.

huh.   How much weight does your windvane and large panel add to the equasion?  With an empty water tank, our boats are loaded similarly for day sailing - sails up front, engine and related stuff in back - and Virago sits pretty level.  I wonder how different our boats are, in model year and also placement of waterline and boot top stripes.  Something else to consider is that I've always been on my boat when sailing, so I've never seen her sail, so I don't know how much she squats when underway - if at all.

Any idea why JJT put the water tank in the bow and the holding tank in the bilge?  With a load of water on, Virago sits well down by the bow, even with the engine, a load of diesel and me in the back.  The only reason I can think of for this arrangement is to counterbalance the weight of the engine to even out the weight distribution and centralize the CG.  However, it does seem odd that she trims below her lines when water is topped up.  Has anyone swapped these tanks around to move the weight of the water aft?  Does it make the boat light in the bow, or particularly heavy by the stern?  I'm toying with the idea of moving the water storage but am afraid that I'll screw up what is currently a well balanced, easy riding boat - except for the load o' water thing.

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(3 replies, posted in Wanted)

I have an old main, old as in the original for my boat from 1985.  It's has been re-worked to a full battened sail and is a bit stretched, but it still drives the boat and is better than nothing.  Only way it really sort of sucks is when you want to flatten it for upwind work in a brisk wind, but reef it and she'll flatten right out.  It's set up for jiffy (slab) reefing.  You can have it for the price of shipping, or come and get it.   I'll likely retire my hank on no. 3 genoa at the end of this season too.  It still trims out well but is getting a bit frayed at the corners.  Same price, but I may decide to hang onto it to turn it into an on-deck sail cover.  Maybe you'd trade and old no.3 for some canvas?

After this exchange I called the Transport Canada Ship Safety Office in Collingwood, Ont. and equired about approval of LED lights in Canada.  All I will say is that things that are approved in the US are not neccessarily approved in Canada. Common examples are: PFDs and Lifejackest - those that are US approved but bear no Canadian approval are not legal for use in Canada. Ditto for life rings and other items.  I was told that, up to that time, the officer I spoke to did not know of any LED lights approved for use in Canada.  Not saying they're not out there, but if you are looking at West Marine or another US supplier you might be wise to check with Transport Canada to find out if the item you want is also approved in Canada if you are outfitting a boat for use in Canadian waters.   Maybe check with Brewer Brothers or another major Canadian supplier to see what they offer.

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(1 replies, posted in Sails & Rigging)

I stand corrected.  I went looking for replacement bulbs last year and was told that no bulbs would do the trick, I wasn't looking to replace the whole fixture.  Anyhoo, the ColReg section that sets out the requirements are Rules 21 and 22.

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(29 replies, posted in Boat handling / Performance)

That's the biggest question of them all, Adrian, though it's not an us-against-them issue, at least not for me, and I don't think I've said anything accusatory or in the vein of man-bashing.  There are differences between men and women, that's a given, but lets allow that there are differences within those groups too.  I came back here and edited out a large entry about this topic, but I decided that it is not, as someone pointed out earlier, suitable for this forum.